Westworld Season 2 Episode 4, “Riddle of the Sphinx” – Open Chat

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Westworld Season 2, Episode 4 “Riddle of the Sphinx”

Writers: Gina Atwater and Jonathan Nolan
Director: Lisa Joy
Runtime: 1 hour, 11 minutes
Content Warnings: TV-MA: Adult Content, Adult Language, Violence

Synopsis: Is this now? If you’re looking forward, you’re looking in the wrong direction.


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11 responses to “Westworld Season 2 Episode 4, “Riddle of the Sphinx” – Open Chat”

  1. Great episode. Definitely at least my second favorite of the season so far.

    We got two pretty awesome reveals… William’s daughter was a great moment, and I think they were foreshadowing it pretty well all episode. Definitely made the reveal seem like it made a lot of sense.

    It was also awesome to find out Delos’s true intentions with the whole cheating death thing. They foreshadowed that well too in the previous couple of episodes. Lisa’s directing was just amazing with the flashback scenes of James Delos– I loved the focus in on the record player every time.

    And we have another great duo! Elsie and Bernard road trip. Their reunion was just as I expected.

    Sad to hear about William’s family going to shit, and very sad to hear about Logan’s OD. Really wanted to see an old Logan. But it was awesome to get to see William save Lawrence’s family! He seemed to have some empathy for them in that moment, it was like we got to see some of the young William again. Maybe he is due for some redemption.

    Lastly… Shogun World next episode! The preview for it looked nuuuuuuuts.

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  2. Jaehaerys,

    I’m not convinced that Logan is dead…not just yet anyway. There are two scenes in the trailer that we have not seen yet – the one with Logan lying naked by a tree and one talking with his father by the pool. At the very least, we are getting more of Logan’s backstory.

    Of course, I am wrong about everything on this show.

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  3. mariamb,

    Interesting… I am inclined to believe that he actually is dead in the current timeline, just because I think William is informed enough to know the truth and I don’t know why he’d lie. Unless his death was somehow faked, or maybe he invested more money behind his dad’s back to perfect the “uploading one’s self into a host” thing and he did that to himself. But I’ll believe his death for now.

    We’ll definitely be seeing some more of Ben Barnes’s Logan though. It is so early on in the season and like you said, he makes some more appearances in the season trailers. But I guess it will just be to further William’s backstory.

    Although, interesting to point out that a Ghost Nation host stumbles upon the naked Logan during one of the S2 trailers. Keeping the impact and importance of the Ghost Nation hosts in mind for this season, I wonder what connection this has to finding Logan in the park. Maybe the Ghost Nation hosts have more to do with Logan than we realize.

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  4. Jaehaerys,

    You are probably correct about Logan. Wishful thinking on my part. According to IMDB – and yes, I’m aware that IMDB is not to be trusted – Logan and Akecheta are scheduled to appear in the next episode. I am really interested in Ghost Nation’s role in the park.

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  5. Does any1 else think ford found out about Delos plan and made a deal with William – shut it down and I give you your redemption …. the game for William seems to be about him becoming the kind caring guy we first met and as a reward the second human conscience is Julia … I mean if he was already working on trying to make James Delos an immortal being why not his wife too … maybe that’s what drove her to her suicide … she probably wasn’t on board
    Coming back to fords game – to go forward- a happy life with your wife – you must look back – become the William you once were by redeeming yourself

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  6. Teddy Babe,

    Interesting idea… I am inclined to think that William and Ford were not exactly friendly, however. Their talk in S1 with Teddy at the table didn’t seem like they were two guys talking that made a deal together, especially one that would benefit William. It seemed to me that William sort of resented Ford for what he made: a game where the hosts can’t shoot back.

    Also, at this point it seems that their attempt to make James Delos immortal had failed. Maybe they have successfully done this with someone else (William’s wife) and just haven’t shown us yet… but they made a point to tell us that the conscious mind is rejecting the host body. It is interesting to point out that so far it seems that creating consciousness in a host body can be done, but transferring consciousness into a host body cannot, because their mind falls apart and can’t deal with the fact that they are a host. It’s strange. And I’m not sure I’m convinced of it yet.

    But, coming back to the game, it does definitely seem that Ford’s message about the game ending where William began, and William’s actions in this past episode, is leading William on a redemption path. However, a redemption arc on a TV show is usually completed towards the end of the show, and not just after the second season. I am starting to think that “the game ends where you began” is in reference to Dolores; maybe the only way William makes it out of this game alive is if he helps Dolores successfully escape as well– and burn the park down in the process.

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  7. Jaehaerys:
    Teddy Babe,

    It is interesting to point out that so far it seems that creating consciousness in a host body can be done, but transferring consciousness into a host body cannot, because their mind falls apart and can’t deal with the fact that they are a host.It’s strange.And I’m not sure I’m convinced of it yet.

    Agree. The idea of creating functional immortality is more complex than what we have seen. Consciousness can be “physically” transferred but the process is short term and, so far, doomed to fail once the host becomes aware that it is not human. I think that it has to do with memories…those things that make us human and define who we are. Memories cannot effectively be transferred from human to host. They have to be experienced and treasured. They have to be “lived in.” It is what defines us.

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